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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:55 am    Post subject: Tenmaya - Why didn't the Shinsengumi react sooner?Reply with quote

Hillsborough does a good job explaining what happened at Tenmaya, but surprisingly he left out one very important detail. He never explained how it was that the Tosa ronin managed to get into the shop in the first place.
The answer is that the Shinsengumi did not know that the people they were opening the door to were from Tosa.

The Shinsengumi's task was to protect an important clansmen of the Kii domain, Miura Kyutaro, whom the Tosa men assumed had been behind Sakamoto's death. Their belief was due to an incident where a Kii vessel had collided with one of Sakamoto's ships and the domain had been obliged to pay out a very large sum of money. It was assumed that Miura had arranged for the Shinsengumi to kill Sakamoto in retribution for this incident. (They were wrong of course. Both Miura and the Shinsengumi were innocent.) Learning that his life was in danger, Miura had arranged through Aizu for the Shinsengumi to protect him and they hid out at the Tenmaya inn.

Had anyone with a Tosa accident come to the door of the inn, the Shinsengumi would have been instantly on their guard. However the person who eventually identified himself spoke with another accent altogether.

Mutsu Munemitsu was not from Tosa like the rest of the attacking party, but he had been a good friend of Sakamoto's and an important member of his Kaientai. And as it just so happened, Mutsu was originally from the Kii domain. (He had abandoned the clan and joined the loyalists cause due to an injustice done to his father.) When the group that was seeking revenge on Miura arrived at Tenmaya, it was Mutsu who announced them. Because the Shinsengumi heard a Kii accent, they assumed it was someone they could trust and opened the door for their enemies!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! That's good info to know. If the use of Mutsu was deliberate (to throw the Shinsengumi off guard), I shall need to give a point to the Tosa men. The Tosa men definitely had their eye on the wrong people, I feel sad that the Shinsengumi felt most of the brunt for the killing of Sakamoto Ryoma. One question I do have is, is it really established that the mastermind of the killing was Sasaki Tadasaburou of the Mimawarigumi? Or is it really still up in the air? *cough* There was of course the theory that Saitou assasinated Ryoma. I doubt that though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting to see that history can turn on something like a missed accent... what an interesting find. I didn't noticed Hillborough skipping over that, I can only read it so far in one sitting, due to his constant hammering of his central idea. :-/
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kizu wrote:
One question I do have is, is it really established that the mastermind of the killing was Sasaki Tadasaburou of the Mimawarigumi? Or is it really still up in the air? *cough* There was of course the theory that Saitou assasinated Ryoma. I doubt that though.


Officially, it is still up in the air. The most accepted theory is that the mastermind of the killing was Sasaki Tadasaburou of the Mimawarigumi though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, there is another theory. His ow Ishin buddies did him in b'cos of differences in opinion. I think Mibushigiden used that theory in the plot line.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

umeko wrote:
You know, there is another theory. His own Ishin buddies did him in b'cos of differences in opinion. I think Mibushigiden used that theory in the plot line.


You know I missed that in Mibugishiden. LOL... But now that you mention it, now I tie Saitou and Itou's Ishin buddies together.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saitou was ordered by the Ishin o kill both Sakamoto and Kondou. He had to make a choice, and chose Sakamoto as his 'first' victim.

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